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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Dec 15, 2012 5:35:28 GMT -8
Fire Emblem thread. Dicuss.
Fire Emblem Awakening will be coming out in NA on 4th Feb 2013 and in Europe in April for the 3DS.
Anyone getting it? I sure will.
Fire Emblem Awakening is out now and is also available in the 3DS eShop.
Uptil 6th March, the first DLC map, Champions of Yore is free for all who have the NA version. With this map, you can obtain Marth as a usable character. His character class is Lodestar (referring to the North Star and how Marth is guiding light and savior to his land) and he uses Swords as his weapon and comes at lvl 8. If you miss, you would have to pay approx 2.5 $ otherwise.
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Post by Speedy_Fox_IV on Dec 15, 2012 19:16:46 GMT -8
As soon as I get a 3DS I will. I've been meaning to play the Fire Emblem series for a while. One of my friends loves it and my younger brother has played a few of them as well.
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Post by Charizard_1234 on Dec 15, 2012 22:11:01 GMT -8
The fire emblem series is great. Oddly enough, it was ssbm that got me interested by introducing marth and roy. I've been a fan ever since I played my first one on the gamecube. I'll be getting the 3ds one for sure when it comes out!
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Dec 16, 2012 3:06:09 GMT -8
As for myself, I only got into the series when the Ambassador Programme for the 3DS included Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones as one of the GBA offerings. After a rough start, I was hooked.
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Jan 17, 2013 11:08:57 GMT -8
Fire Emblem Awakening's demo is up for anyone with an NA 3DS.
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Post by Yoh on Jan 17, 2013 11:29:59 GMT -8
How much?
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Jan 17, 2013 11:38:41 GMT -8
It's free. All demos are. But you can only play it 30 times. Opening it and closing the game (or 3DS) counts as 1 use.
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Jan 29, 2013 8:19:09 GMT -8
As a bonus, everyone who buys the game early will get the first DLC Map for free withing a limited time period. This time period is speculated to be 1 to 1 & 1/2 month from release. THe map is speculated to be the one with Marth as an obtainable player character. So if you're a fan of Marth or you've played SSB with him, even more reason for you to get the game within the first month or so.
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Feb 4, 2013 12:41:47 GMT -8
FE 13 is out now! Go buy it. NOW! I placed my order today but because of where I live, it will be a while before I get it. And guys, come on, I need more activity in this sub-board. This is a triple post from me now..
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Post by Speedy_Fox_IV on Feb 4, 2013 15:16:17 GMT -8
So which Fire Emblem game should I start with then? I've been meaning to play the series but I haven't been able to get around to it.
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Post by Yoh on Feb 4, 2013 15:27:43 GMT -8
I better get this soon then!
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Feb 4, 2013 22:53:34 GMT -8
So which Fire Emblem game should I start with then? I've been meaning to play the series but I haven't been able to get around to it. You could always start with the first one released in the west that's simply called Fire Emblem (its actual subtitle is Rekka no Ken meaning Blazing Sword) It's a prequel to the 6th game which was never released outside of japan. The series can be notoriously difficult so you could also start with Sacred Stones which is by far the easist game. If you intend on playing Awakening soon, then this game is a good choice because it reintroduced features from Fire Emblem Gaiden (the second game) such as a traversable world map and branching promotions. In fact, aside from 3 character classes, Fire Emblem Awakening's branching class system is identical to the one found in Sacred Stones. I'm not sure how familiar you are with the series so I'll juct quickly explain. In Fire Emblem, characters can change class into a more powerful version. However, in Sacred Stones (and by extension, in Awakening) you can select between 2 different class change options for more diversity. If you want to see how Fire Emblem began, you could try Shadow Dragon for the DS. I'd recommend playing this one before any of the others because it's only a graphical remake of the first game with some new features and it mostly drops many of the cool features found in the games that came just before it. So playing this one after playing the others might leave you with a negative opinion of this game. Due to it dropping features like Support Conversations, characters only have one line bofre fading into obscurity forever. However, it's still a great game and it tells Marth's tale. Also, it has one of the best localizations I've ever seen in a Japanese to English game. The dialouge is so good. If you play Shadow Dragon, then check out it's sequel, New Mystery of the Emblem: Heroes of Light and Shadow (Original Japanes name- Shin Monshou no Nazo: Hikari to Kage no Eiyuu). It was never released outside of Japan despite all of its previous ones making it. It has a fantastic fan translation patch that emulates Shadow Dragon's localization. It also bring back Support conversations so characters get personality again. It also lets you create your own chacracter and add him/her into the story, a feature which Awakening also has. Unforutnately, said character is broken beyond belief and may come off as a Gary Stu/Mary Sue. The GameCube and Wii have Path of Radiance and it's sequel Radiant Dawn respectively. I haven't played Radiant Dawn but Path of Radinace is awesome and one the best written Fire Emblem games. Features Ike.
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Post by Yoh on Feb 4, 2013 23:28:25 GMT -8
I have shadow dragon. I haven't gotten around to play it yet however.
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Feb 7, 2013 11:22:06 GMT -8
Also, all the previous games that weren't released in the West and have translation patches of varying quality.
Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryū to Hikari no Tsurugi (Dark Dragon and the Blade of Light): The first game. It has not aged well at all. Today, it becomes extremely sluggish, monotonous and unbalanced. With Shadow Dragon available, I would recommend skipping this one and going straight to Shadow Dragon to experience Marth's story.
Fire Emblem Gaiden: As the name suggests, it's a sidestory to the first game. Many of it's features were brought back in Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones. It's a fairly unique game that hasn't aged well either. I would recommend playing since it was never remade.
Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo (Mystery of the Emblem): It's a remake of the first game as well as a sequel to it at the same time. It is split into 2 'books'. Book 1 is a condensed remake of the first game that was forced to drop a few characters and chapters due to limitations. Book 2 is a sequel and continues Marth's story. Book 2 was remade as Fire Emblem 12. Its translation patch is pretty bad and is a prime example of Blind Idiot Translation.
Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (Genealogy of the Holy War): This one is probably the only older FE game that aged exceptionally well. The story is based on a war spanning 2 generations and heavly relies on pairing up characters to pass down holy blood and hence the title. The chapter maps are huge and the game plays differently than any other FE game. It remains a fan favourite and has a pretty good translation patch except for the end where it glitches and you can't see the epilouge. Highly recommended.
Fire Emblem: Thracia 776: A sidestory that takes between chapters 5 and 8 from Genealogy. Even by Fire Emblem standards, it is notoriously hard. All future FE games use this game as template for map design. It results in a strange case of Thracia being the most familiar yet most alien FE game if you played any of the later games. The translation patch is horrible and is broken. Not recommended.
Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade: Due to its extreme similarites in plot, it could be considered a rehash of the first game though not entirely in a negative way. Nevetheless, the story is mediocre but gameplay is still fun. Translation patch is awkward and seems to be a word for word literal translation from japanese.
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Post by ┌༼ຈل͜ຈ༽┘ on Feb 7, 2013 12:06:36 GMT -8
Let me talk about Genealogy of the Holy War. SPOILER WARNINGS (Extreme spoilers will be tagged though) Chapter 5: Door to Destiny has hands down one of the biggest most brutal plot twist in gaming history. The main character Sigurd and his army as well as his father have been accused of treason by the country of Granvalle that they serve. Sigurd's wife Deirdre was also kidnapped by Manfloy for some reason in Chapter 3 and he hasn't seen her for two years. After their suspicions about this being an attempt to silence them by real dissenters, Sigurd and his army invade their own homeland in hopes of clearing their name after having been in hiding in the neighbouring country. Sigurd's father is mortally wounded and dies as he gives Sigurd the Tyrfing, a holy weapon that in gameplay terms in broken beyond belief.
After battling their way and defeating one of the leaders of the real coup d'etat forces, reinforcements arrive from another country to aid Sigurd. They are led by by Cuan, Sigurd's brother in law. Also accompanying Cuan is his his wife and Sigurd's younger sister Ethlin. Both these characters have been with you as usable units since the prolouge and were 2 of the best units available. They had left one chapter earlier to get reinforcements and have finallt arrived. Ethlin even brings her 3 year old daughter Altenna with her as she wasn't planning on joning the battle.
As they are marching through the desert that lies between them and Sigurd, they are slowed down. This is because all ground units have their movements drastically reduced. Suddenly, they are ambushed by the neighbouring country of Thracia and its Wyvern Knights led by King Trabant himself. Wyvern Knights are flying units and are unaffected by desert limitations. So just as you cheer upon the arrival of Cuan and Ethlin, you go "Oh shit!" when you see those Wyvern Knights. They begin attacking the reinforcements who are completely outmatched.
This happens in gameplay and not cutscene so you can attempt to save them. Doesn't matter. You won't get there in time. You never will. You have to watch as all the reinforcements are slaughtered. Ethlin gets killed, usually by Trabant himself (there is a little variation due to Ethlin having high dodge abilities). Trabant takes little Altenna and demands that Cuan surrender and hand over the Gae Bolg(An equally broken weapon) Cuan is forced to comply and he too is slaughtered. Trabant then leaves with Altenna to raise as his daughter so she can wield the Gae Bolg for him. In gameplay terms, only the eldest child inherits Holy Blood and the ability to wield the corresponding holy weapon)
Sigurd only finds out after it's already over.
All of this happens in game and not in cutscenes so feel even more powerless. You will cry.
Think that's bad? The Chapter ain't over and it only get worse. Conitnuing... As you march closer to the country's capital, you are faced with the bulk of the enemy as well as Alvis, a duke of Granvalle, someone who ahs been your ally previously. However, when you get close, Alvis' troops betray the enemy and your combined forces easily defeat the enemy. Alvis reveals that he knew of Sigurd's innonsence but was unable to do anything before due to how much political influence the real coup d'etat leaders held. He invites Sigurd and his army to join the celebrations at the capitol. The rest is cutscene.
As the celebrations are underway, Alvie suddenly exclaims that Sigurd is still a traitor and announces his execution. He brings out his new wife... Deirdre!!! Deirdre had preciously lost her memories and was actually the true heir to the Granvalle throne and Sigurd's wife though no one knew of her true heritage. Manfloy kidnaps her, brainwashes her and introduces her to Alvis, who falls in love with her and marries her, making him next in line to the throne.
Alvis taunts Sigurd by bring out Deirdre who doesn't remember Sigurd or her 1 year old son Seliph. He then tells her to go back in inside. Alvis' royal guard outnumber Sigurd and his army who are unarmed. Each and everyone one of them is brutally slaughtered. The characters whom you had come to love anc care about are all killed.
Alvis' plan is a complete success and he crowned Emperor of Granvalle. The general public knew nothing of his plans or of Sigurd's innosence.
And the credits roll...
Oh, and Alvis and Deirdre are half-siblings. But they didn't know that. They even have children. Incest, yay!
Wait, what! WHAT! How can the game just end like that? The game isn't over. Only the first generation of the Holy War has ended...
The second generation starts with Seliph, the son of Sigurd and Deirdre and the children of all the other characters from the first gen if you paired them up (If you don't, you get weak replacements) as well as a few characters from gen 1 that hadn't perished as you seek out to right the wrongs...
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